Manhattan: Most Expensive City

??Scott Greider??: “Manhattan: Most Expensive City”: Alan and Scott discuss the implications of the shrinking urban middle class for the church. Really interesting thread–particularly to someone looking to “settle down” anywhere near the Village Church (*cough*us*cough*). As a total aside, check out the “obscenely low crime”: rate for “Edison, NJ”:,+nj&spn=0.072256,0.206131&hl=en!

3 thoughts on “Manhattan: Most Expensive City

  1. Gentlemen,

    It’s nice to know my musings are considered profundities. 😉

    Pray that God gives his church insight on how to live counter-culturally, so it can manage to flourish in NYC. I think long term presence is key.

    On the other hand, some people make a career out of being campus ministers. They, at best, have 3-4 years to influence people and then they are gone. Perhaps center-city urban ministry is an extension of that. You have 5, maybe 10 yrs with people and then they are gone. Maybe that’s why the ethos of “successful” center city churches seems so “post-college”. Gritty, edgy, warm. It’s the like the TV show “Friends” with Christians playing the main characters. It lasts for 10 years, about the life the show. And what happened to Chandler and Monica? They had a kid and moved to the burbs.

    Or…on the other hand, the center-city urban church that ministers to professionals may have to come to grips that it’s a ministry to the affluent, and, in the not-so-distant future, to the hyper-affluent.

    Is there anything wrong with that?

    I don’t think so. It just rubs me the wrong way. It’s perhaps a reflection of my own personal demons about what I feel I should have accomplished by now financially.

    A very wise person recently told me that I need to get over loathing the poor and resenting the rich. Wise words indeed.




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